Whose opinion really matters when it comes to things like this, the people drinking the beer right? The other information was that the malt had a nice, deep & bready character that made some nice lagers.

I have some in a secondary and I'm looking very forward to it. Add a Beer

Silicone tubing always kinking. I have only used Pilsen and Vienna malts carried by Breiss Malting company.

1.041 F.G. 1.010.
The batches were brewed consecutively on Raleigh Brewing Company’s 3-vessel fly sparge pilot system. We hit around .4 on each batch. Do you think a short boil with lager yeast could change the outcome? Try it if it's not too much more than the equivalent, alternative german malt.

About I should check into this myself. Of course, this is an extrapolation, as we’ve no objective data on the presence of DMS in either of these beers.

This gives a p-value .453 and means the finding is insignificant. I don’t want to keep a bag of each on hand if possible.

Beer Judging Standards and Score Sheet are © by Beer Judge Certification Program, Inc. I expressed my neurotic expectations for limiting extraneous variables, he assuaged my worries with assurances, agreeing to use our standard data collection methods, and we agreed to give it a shot. Edited by KenLenard, 12 November 2014 - 12:52 PM. I can choose where I get my malt from: Ireks, Zeitler (Monchshof), Weyermann or Bamberger Mälzerei. That one is LONG gone! This experiment was designed to help answer that question.

Peeps: On my LHBS stop today, my pilsner malt options were Weyermann (both the standard and floor-malted), Rahr Premium Pilsner and Avangard.

Barke Pilsner is good. And Weyermann differs dramatically from Avangard or Best Malz. My gut tells me that there was a difference, beyond the fact that there were more than a few extraneous variables. Due to the fact that I live in a remote corner of the world I don’t have the same access to many professional palettes. I think it matters more that you find a pilsner malt that you really like, than it does to use one that is country correct.

Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Brews-Bros.com, Peeps: On my LHBS stop today, my pilsner malt options were Weyermann (both the standard and floor-malted), Rahr Premium Pilsner and Avangard. In order to exemplify any differences between the beers, the brewers settled on a very simple recipe, making an 11 gallon batch with each malt. I was able to select the odd beer out when given the triangle test on three separate occasions. A term of endearment? I also get better efficiency when using Pils malt.

The only difference in equipment between these beers is the kettles they in which they were brewed. Pilsner Malts - German, Bohemian, Belgian &c.... Belgian Pilsen, German Pilsen and Bohemian Pilsner malt, Edelmetall Bru Burner vs Blichmann Floor Burner.

To evaluate the differences between two beers made with German Pils malts from different maltsters, Weyermann and Best Malz, where both are boiled for only 30 minutes. How could it happen.

I’ve got my software dialed in for 60 minutes of boil-off and I don’t want to mess with it, and 2. 1.047F.G. Hydrometer measurements revealed a small .001 SG difference between the batches, with the Weyermann clocking in at 1.052 OG while the Best Malz wort was at 1.053 OG.

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I was hoping for another data point. I havn't used the rahr, but I have used gambrinus Pilsner malt, another Canadian Pilsner malt, excellent pilsner malt. but does know how to taste and analyze beverages. I don't know what my gap setting is.

What is the best mesh number for bag in BIAB method?

Also my water profile favored the Czech style. Anyone have any experience with this company? While he did not attempt the triangle test, and he was fully aware of which was which when he drank them side-by-side. I did them all. 55 lbs for $60 ($1.09 per pound).So I did some reading on the Avangard last night because I thought there might be a chance I could get it today. One ABS employee, Tony, experienced the Weyermann batch as possessing a distinctly more grainy flavor than the BestMalz beer. I just compared it to some Weyermann Floor Malted Pilsner malt. This means people could not reliably tell the difference between the beers. My Impressions: I didn’t get to taste these beers, so I sought the opinions of those who did.

WeyermannMash Temp: 67.1 C Mash pH: 5.1O.G. Please share your experiences in the comments section below!

 List of completed exBEERiments  Which of these would you say are most interchangeable? Mick, I know I suggested the Best Malz pils to you, but you should definitely give this one a try. It gives me more time to sit in a lawn chair drinking beer and enjoying the aroma.

Totally anecdotal, so interpret cautiously, and try it out for yourself. Your email address will not be published. Weyermann Pale Ale vs. Malteurop (China) 2-row Pale Malt. I haven't done a side by side … Some people mentioned that the kernels are smaller and a more narrow mill gap might be important. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. //]]> Conventional wisdom has it that wort must be boiled for a minimum of 60 minutes, sometimes longer, a purported necessity recent xBmt results have called into question. But must say all in all my general impression is that Bamberger Mälzerei gave the best results, unscientificly. Brülosophy is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and other affiliated sites. Should prove to make some interesting beer. A Kolsch Recipe… | Online Beers Scores Blog. Maris Otter from different maltsters) translates reasonably well through to the final product. Do you have a favorite malt you swear produces a particularly preferred character and compared it to a similar malt from another maltster? I have used the Weyerman german Pilsner malt up to now but am tempted to either go the whole hog and get Belgian malt or save money and get the UK lager malt instead! That is just one persons analysis but it also coming from someone that doesn’t drink beer (less bias?) Huge thanks to the folks at Brulosophy for producing a torrent of content and great examples of how to compare a variable. Silicone tubing always kinking. To be clear, I not saying one person is a significant amount of data at all. Temp exchange and material exchange affects the rate at which SMM is converted to DMS. //
One is that I’m pretty sure I used 2 liters more water in the Malteurop batch. Their pilsner is the only one I've tried. Weyermann® Pilsner malt is a German, lager-style base malt produced from high-quality, 2-row spring barley. Ran just fine through my mill. But if the initial amount is such that the resultant DMS is near or below taste threshold then, as we are theorizing, it may never become an issue. I’m not convinced either way… meaning I’m curious how a short boil with Pils malt fermented with a traditional lager strain might turn out as well . They all provide the same general malt character and fall within expectation.

Just over 2 weeks later, the fermentors were moved to a warmer environment where they spent a couple days in order to ensure complete attenuation and clean-up of any undesirable fermentation byproducts. And, while he thought some DMS may have been present, it was not as strong compared to the Weyermann sample.

I did a Kolsch with the first bag of Weyermann I've bought and we're enjoying it now.
I brew with what is on hand. We actually underestimated and as a result ended up with a lower efficiency than expected.

Subscribe to BYO Magazine! In regards to DMS, these results provide support for the notion that a wort produced using a large proportion of Weyermann German Pils malt can be boiled for 30 minutes without imparting a perceptibly different level of DMS than the same beer made with Best Malz Pils malt. I'm just tossing this out there for anyone who has used it... let me know your results. Good eye . I'm looking forward to trying it and I'm thinking that a Helles might be a nice experiment because the malt will stand out a bit. Learn how your comment data is processed. It’s possible a superior palate may have noticed a difference in a blind triangle, though I’ve personally used both of these malts extensively and can’t say either stands out as more unique than the other. Required fields are marked *, You may use these HTML tags and attributes:

For that price, even if it didn’t compare to the Weyermann I was used to using, it would be good for something.

Brew Hardware. *My water is close to RO but I have not had it tested so I can’t confirm the efficacy of my filters.

I've heard nothing but good things about it. This is extremely interesting and helpful. Avangard Pilsener Malt analysis sheet Let’s see how things went! I did not keep the odd beer out consistent throughout the testing, live and learn. Coincidentally, Tony from ABS attended the Master Brewers Association of America conference while these beers fermenting and spoke with Franziska Weyermann in person. The beers were then cold crashed for 2 days then packaged in corny kegs and force carbonated before being served to tasters. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam.

MoreBeer! You currently have javascript disabled. I really like working with pilsner malt, it works for every style and I’ve been using it for the past 3 years. Tasters where served 3 beers in black coffee mugs that where labeled on the bottom with my super secret code.